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		<title>Comment on Science and Religion, Why the Conflict? by Michal</title>
		<link>http://conversationinfaith.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/science-and-religion-why-the-conflict/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Michal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd say the conflict dates more to the nineteenth century, that's when you start seeing people within science talking about a conflict between science and religion. To a certain extent it's part of the nineteenth century professionalization of science. In Britain (I know a bit more about th situation there than elsewhere), part of the professionalization of science meant excluding the tradition natural philosopher associated with the universities and the Church of England. Up until late 1820s early 1830s (roughly) all university professors had to be part of the Church of England, so there were strong links between science and religion in terms of many of the people doing science. As science became a profession and men (almost always) struggled to find a place in science (post WWII levels of science funding was not a even a dream) they tried to carve a place that tended to exclude people who were both scientists and also religious figures. To do science, they thought, you had to devote yourself to science exclusively. This also meant excluding the language of religion from scientific texts, which happened during the nineteenth century. 
I think another modern issue in relations between science and religion is one over a battle for cultural authority. Who gets to say what is true?  
I'll stop now. As a good overall look at the historical relationship between science and religion, try John Brooke and Geoffrey Cantor's Reconstructing Nature: The Engagement of Science and Religion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say the conflict dates more to the nineteenth century, that&#8217;s when you start seeing people within science talking about a conflict between science and religion. To a certain extent it&#8217;s part of the nineteenth century professionalization of science. In Britain (I know a bit more about th situation there than elsewhere), part of the professionalization of science meant excluding the tradition natural philosopher associated with the universities and the Church of England. Up until late 1820s early 1830s (roughly) all university professors had to be part of the Church of England, so there were strong links between science and religion in terms of many of the people doing science. As science became a profession and men (almost always) struggled to find a place in science (post WWII levels of science funding was not a even a dream) they tried to carve a place that tended to exclude people who were both scientists and also religious figures. To do science, they thought, you had to devote yourself to science exclusively. This also meant excluding the language of religion from scientific texts, which happened during the nineteenth century.<br />
I think another modern issue in relations between science and religion is one over a battle for cultural authority. Who gets to say what is true?<br />
I&#8217;ll stop now. As a good overall look at the historical relationship between science and religion, try John Brooke and Geoffrey Cantor&#8217;s Reconstructing Nature: The Engagement of Science and Religion</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bible Believing Animals Rights Christians by Pet Adoption</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pet Adoption</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A thought provoking article, it can be difficult nowadays to work out what is real and what is not. keep up the good work :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thought provoking article, it can be difficult nowadays to work out what is real and what is not. keep up the good work <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Bible Believing Animals Rights Christians by Pet Adoption &#124; PetAdoptionHelp.co.uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pet Adoption &#124; PetAdoptionHelp.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Go and Make Disciples - You didn&#8217;t mean us, did you? by Accetrybicy</title>
		<link>http://conversationinfaith.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/go-and-make-disciples-you-didnt-mean-us-did-you/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Accetrybicy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tahnks for posting</description>
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		<title>Comment on An Ox Looks at Man by lifeinthesack</title>
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		<dc:creator>lifeinthesack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incredibly beautifully articulated, though I would say our ways do not hinder their truthful chews. an excerpt from a much less well-articulated poem i wrote,  channeling the strength Bison, is as follows:

"...Instead I crouch here
Waiting. Stubbornly 
defiant puffs of breath like
Spirit ghosts filling visions
In cold morning air

I am the bison
Shaggy hair
Strong, brown eyes
of many sorrows churned to
deep remembering deep wisdom held

Waiting. 
With deep intent."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incredibly beautifully articulated, though I would say our ways do not hinder their truthful chews. an excerpt from a much less well-articulated poem i wrote,  channeling the strength Bison, is as follows:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Instead I crouch here<br />
Waiting. Stubbornly<br />
defiant puffs of breath like<br />
Spirit ghosts filling visions<br />
In cold morning air</p>
<p>I am the bison<br />
Shaggy hair<br />
Strong, brown eyes<br />
of many sorrows churned to<br />
deep remembering deep wisdom held</p>
<p>Waiting.<br />
With deep intent.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Ox Looks at Man by sixpillarstopersia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sixpillarstopersia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely. I would say that they know a secret about existence that we have overlooked, though, as many animals do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely. I would say that they know a secret about existence that we have overlooked, though, as many animals do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on God and Dog and Animal Rights by diza</title>
		<link>http://conversationinfaith.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/god-and-dog-and-animal-rights/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>diza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am a christian and i dont understand, i asked about animal cruelty but it only gave me a tiny piece about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am a christian and i dont understand, i asked about animal cruelty but it only gave me a tiny piece about that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Religious or Spiritual? by Bruce Reyes-Chow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Reyes-Chow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy - Thanks for a great post.  Very thoughtful.  i think one of the issues of church/culture today is that we - and other institutions built by the boomer generation - are now more than ever trying to convince the world that life is black and white when the vast majority of younger types do not live or believe it.  The ambiguity and chaos is not something to be conquered, but embraced and seen as an opportunity to more fully live out the peace that Christ offers.  Again, great stuff!  Thanks! - Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy - Thanks for a great post.  Very thoughtful.  i think one of the issues of church/culture today is that we - and other institutions built by the boomer generation - are now more than ever trying to convince the world that life is black and white when the vast majority of younger types do not live or believe it.  The ambiguity and chaos is not something to be conquered, but embraced and seen as an opportunity to more fully live out the peace that Christ offers.  Again, great stuff!  Thanks! - Bruce</p>
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		<title>Comment on Religious or Spiritual? by Clark Bunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark Bunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn't really noticed, but our society has in fact moved toward perceiving everything in terms of black and white.  The trend has been to remove all shades of grey.  

I often say the problem with religion is that it's easier than following Jesus.  Some have called religion the oppiate of the masses (I think Marx may have started that, don't quote me).  Following Jesus sometimes creates problems, more than at first glance it appears to solve.  The oppium analogy does not apply to some one truly immitating what it means to Christlike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t really noticed, but our society has in fact moved toward perceiving everything in terms of black and white.  The trend has been to remove all shades of grey.  </p>
<p>I often say the problem with religion is that it&#8217;s easier than following Jesus.  Some have called religion the oppiate of the masses (I think Marx may have started that, don&#8217;t quote me).  Following Jesus sometimes creates problems, more than at first glance it appears to solve.  The oppium analogy does not apply to some one truly immitating what it means to Christlike.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What I learned from Animals by What We&#8217;ve Learned from Animals : HighCallingBlogs.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>What We&#8217;ve Learned from Animals : HighCallingBlogs.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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